tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post5402244754104579769..comments2024-03-28T23:10:11.954-04:00Comments on Femulate: Why I am girlyStanahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10259788604423472207noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-7778406452297735342023-07-12T08:28:04.191-04:002023-07-12T08:28:04.191-04:00Stana, your story is my story, except B cup bras a...Stana, your story is my story, except B cup bras are too small for me!. I was born after a still birth and while I will never know if DES was involved, I too developed moderate gynecomastia at age 13 that turned into full female breasts in adulthood and decided I would not have reduction surgery. And as life has gone on, I have noticed I am "more female" than my male friends. Actually, I have several female friends I am closer to than male friends and I interact with these female friends more like woman to woman than man to woman. They treat me and trust me as if I am a woman. I know things about them their husbands don't even know. Very girly things. While I identify as male, I suspect I am really gender fluid because there is a definitely feminine streak in me, not only mentally but physically as well. I unconsciously femulate every day. Its just baked in me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-88308746788969881102023-04-29T16:28:05.812-04:002023-04-29T16:28:05.812-04:00Where our Mom's used DES , I have read that re...Where our Mom's used DES , I have read that research says we can have a partial female brain and this is why most people don't understand us .Seas Ladyhttps://seasladyrouge.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-85846255036246115442023-04-27T15:17:51.426-04:002023-04-27T15:17:51.426-04:00Only women !Only women !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-21873169057647740222023-04-27T13:48:15.913-04:002023-04-27T13:48:15.913-04:00Is there any history of those impacted by DES bein...Is there any history of those impacted by DES being attracted to men?Stacynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-61994661626735197272023-04-27T13:01:43.378-04:002023-04-27T13:01:43.378-04:00I have what is known as 46XY/47XXY mosaicism, mean...I have what is known as 46XY/47XXY mosaicism, meaning some but not all of my cells have an extra X chromosome. This imparts both feminine physical and mental traits. Like a lot of others here, it seems I was destined to live my life in this middle space!Angelanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-2658931439222100332023-04-27T12:32:42.329-04:002023-04-27T12:32:42.329-04:00Paula, I read with great interest your initial pos...Paula, I read with great interest your initial post about DES and I too will never know the answer if my Mom ever took it. All I can recall was my mother saying how difficult it was and she did not think that she and my father would ever be parents. I did wind up as an only child. While I don't think I would strictly fit into a diagnosis of gynecomastia I have always had what I thought was way more breast tissue than most of the other kids and I always felt more comfortable with a shirt on even while swimming and still to this day.<br /><br />I had not heard of Digit Ratio and transgender, what I mostly found were some extremely deep, extensive studies that were somewhat over my head. Correction, way over my head! What I did seem sift out of that deluge of information, I may have that as an identifier as well.<br /><br />I can't say I was attracted to girly things as a youngster, I diligently tried all the sports, baseball, football, etc. but did not have much natural talent and probably even less interest in them. However I always was secretly envious of everything that girls wore. I loved the way skirts and dresses looked and I really loved long hair. TV arrived where I lived rather late as a result I spent a great deal of time at the movies. No doubt I enjoyed a good shoot 'em up western, but what I also enjoyed was seeing the splendid costumes of the dance hall girls and just fantasize what it would be like to wear something like that. I also would continue that thought on just about every movie I went to... what would it be like to wear their clothes. Never understood why my male friends did not share that interest. Now crying in movies, ha! That continues to this day to include television, it is so bad I will not go to any movie that I suspect is even the least bit of a tearjerker. Ditto for TV. <br /><br />Did not have the chance for any meaningful cross dressing until I started working in my late teens. In the mean time I would read the ink off of any article that addressed the subject that I could get my hands on. When I was able to see the move "Some Like It Hot", I was in heaven seeing it 4 times on one weekend.<br /><br />Now, I just read in your most recent reply of a link for left-handedness... YIKES!! I am the only one in our family that is left handed. This is to include my parents, grandparents, my parents siblings and their children, I am he only south paw.<br /><br />Guess I will never really figure out this journey I have made so far, but here I am!!<br /><br />Thanks for the info and thanks to Stana for this great site.<br /><br />Lee<br /><br />Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02058479626518112410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-47363332212902350712023-04-27T12:06:24.369-04:002023-04-27T12:06:24.369-04:00Thanks all for sharing your stories. I am jealous ...Thanks all for sharing your stories. I am jealous for all these natural Bs and Cs! But happy to be a lefty and a nice A cup...but often augmented. :)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-25002403954992926522023-04-27T08:02:49.523-04:002023-04-27T08:02:49.523-04:00Left-handedness has been linked to high fetal expo...Left-handedness has been linked to high fetal exposure to oestrogens on the basis of left-handedness being associated with diethylstilbestrol exposure (Schachter, 1994; Scheirs and Vingerhoets, 1995). Left-handedness may therefore be thought of as a proxy for high intrauterine exposure to oestrogens.<br /><br />And yes I am the only one in my family left hand too!<br />Paula GaikowskiPaula_56https://www.blogger.com/profile/09762340959679940655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-9657015236868141602023-04-27T00:33:33.430-04:002023-04-27T00:33:33.430-04:00Whether or not mom took DES, she and you took DES...Whether or not mom took DES, she and you took DES...<br />article:<br />What is DES and Why You Should Care - Hormones Matter<br />In addition to diethylstilbestrol use in humans, it was used widely in farm animals to fatten up the chickens and cattle, beginning in the early 1950s and through the 1970s. DES was found to cause cancer and interestingly enough, cause gynecomastia (man boobs) and sterility in the poultry workers.<br /><br />Velma <br />Researching DES and inflammation and depression...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-78379644098845238542023-04-26T19:49:22.752-04:002023-04-26T19:49:22.752-04:00Stana, I know when I go out en femme I sometimes p...Stana, I know when I go out en femme I sometimes play with the size of my chest...admittedly I like going a little bigger sometimes. Even though you don't have to pad, do you ever find yourself doing it for certain outfits or to feel that extra bit of feminine energy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-17610791618128585992023-04-26T13:43:10.977-04:002023-04-26T13:43:10.977-04:00Paula
How is finding out that what made me transge...Paula<br />How is finding out that what made me transgender was totally beyond my control and fighting it is a complete wasted of time transphobic?<br />Now I know I cannot beat it all I can do is enjoy my feminine side<br /> Lucy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-52557811422841439702023-04-26T12:44:49.414-04:002023-04-26T12:44:49.414-04:00I asked my mother about DES and she said she did n...I asked my mother about DES and she said she did not take it. She had a miscarriage in 1956. I was her first child born in 1957. I did not start puberty until I was 17. Gym class and showers were mandatory from 7th to 12th grade. It was a nightmare. The relentless teasing was off the charts for me. Then when I did start puberty I got gynecomastia. Another nightmare. My anxiety was off the charts. I hated every single second of gym class. The gynecomastia went away after a couple of years.<br />At 60 it came back. I have a huge hormonal imbalance. Im 12 pounds overweight now and it went straight to my chest and hips. I wear a 38C bra. I wear a sports bra to flatten my chest when in boy mode. I’m beginning to wonder if she did take DES. The bad news is I wear a bra most all the time now. The good news is I wear a bra most all the time now😃 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-36744607752581069892023-04-26T12:37:17.158-04:002023-04-26T12:37:17.158-04:00I have no idea if I had exposure to DES. But I do ...I have no idea if I had exposure to DES. But I do have some level of gynecomastia I believe. I too wear and fill a B cup. For most of my life I denied my femininity and my chest was a great source of embarrassment to me. Once I finally stopped denying my femininity and put on that bra, I stopped hating my chest. I LOVE wearing my bra and wear it as much as possible. <br />-ChristinaChristina Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15402035040306619685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-79395046978294591872023-04-26T10:43:25.264-04:002023-04-26T10:43:25.264-04:00I had the same experience; second male child born ...I had the same experience; second male child born fourteen months after the first. Kid sister was born eleven years later, so she is out of the narrative. I probably heard too much from her because I ended up crying one night that she did not love me because I was not a girl. I had donned one of her nylon nightgowns while I was crying. She did the motherly thing and hugged me. She said she would never say that again, and she did not. However it was evident that she did not like me as the discipline handed out by her was more severe and more often than what my older brother got. Her first born was her favorite child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-45307151246096140262023-04-26T10:08:25.600-04:002023-04-26T10:08:25.600-04:00I doubt we ever will know for sure, as DES affecte...I doubt we ever will know for sure, as DES affected boomers and as most of us never came out as transgender. So the number of available persons just isn't there. There also doesn't seem to be an interested in finding out from either side. Paula GPaula_56https://www.blogger.com/profile/09762340959679940655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-80247209341673553592023-04-26T09:00:38.297-04:002023-04-26T09:00:38.297-04:00I have no proof of any of my suppositions. All I k...I have no proof of any of my suppositions. All I know is I was Child #2 (and Boy #2) and my mother really wanted a daughter. That's it. If this came into play, if this affected my attitudes and proclivity for cross dressing, I don't know. My mother passed away 20 years ago so I will never know.Julie M Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335088569492502222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-52399445288261581582023-04-26T08:34:20.906-04:002023-04-26T08:34:20.906-04:00Also I forgot to add that I had undescended testic...Also I forgot to add that I had undescended testicle‘s as a baby which is a sign of exposure to DES<br /><br /><br />Paula G Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-85426848033385530932023-04-26T08:20:59.961-04:002023-04-26T08:20:59.961-04:00DES , me too !!!!!!!!!DES , me too !!!!!!!!!Seashttps://seasbysea.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-45251811707281113332023-04-26T08:11:35.583-04:002023-04-26T08:11:35.583-04:00Although I lack the blessing of B cups (and all th...Although I lack the blessing of B cups (and all that goes with it), I was definitely a DES baby. I wonder if that's the cause of my inclinations, but I don't have access to a large enough pool to acquire more than anecdotal evidence.CallMeMeghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184763491635476887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-12250253840381066452023-04-26T08:10:40.364-04:002023-04-26T08:10:40.364-04:00We do have so much in common Stana,
My Mom had m...We do have so much in common Stana, <br /><br />My Mom had me when she was 40 years old, and in 1959 this was considered a high risk, now my Mom never said she took DES but she did say that Dr. took special care with her. Just many of the comments she made about her pregnancy over the years make's me strongly suspect she took DES. Also living in the New York metro area, was an area of the country where DES was heavily prescribed. Also in 1959 DES was at it's height of use.<br /><br />I too have gynecomastia, I never could go shirtless without drawing stares. My father and brother didn't have this issue even when over weight, and we had the same builds otherwise. I too fit perfectly into a B cup. It's very validating.<br /><br />I also have a digit ratio (fingers) similar to female. If you don't know what this is google "digit ratio transgender"<br /><br />I like you was always attracted to female or girly things. I started cross-dressing at 8 years old whenever I was alone.<br /><br />I learned to cook and sew, some may remember my article here on Femulate "Sew What" when I saved the day by altering a bridesmaid dress.<br /><br />I also cry at movies.<br /><br />However I learned there wasn't any tolerance for "sissy boys" I was caught cross-dressng and had fear put into me. So I hid it.<br /><br />My transgender feelings are SO strong I have no doubt something is wired differently inside me.<br /><br />I believe it is DES, just think about it DES is a type of estrogen and the amount given to women increased the level of estrogen in their uterus exponentially. So here we were as fetuses swimming in a pool of girl water! <br /><br />The pharmaceutical companies are quick to silence any research or info on DES most law suits are settled with NDA's<br /><br />There is also an attitude in the transgender community that wanting to know what made you transgender is some how transphobic. So any discussion is often shouted down.<br /><br />So as DES fades in importance as the victims age out we will probably never know for sure but I believe DES is what made me Girly. <br /><br />Here is a list of links about transgender and DES<br /><br />https://diethylstilbestrol.co.uk/studies/des-and-gender-identity/<br /><br />Paula Gaikowski<br /><br /> Paula_56https://www.blogger.com/profile/09762340959679940655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372432081562643074.post-9861937474219509352023-04-26T01:06:55.387-04:002023-04-26T01:06:55.387-04:00I like the baseball metaphor in your case Stana. W...I like the baseball metaphor in your case Stana. Well done.<br />Angel AmoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com